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Thread: 80mph Motorway Limit coming soon

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    80mph Motorway Limit coming soon



    Motorway speed limits will rise to 80mph to shorten journey times and help boost the economy.

    Police and authorities currently turn a blind eye to most motorists who drive at this speed, and they are rarely prosecuted.

    But a review of road safety is expected to conclude that the increase from the current 70mph limit should be made official.

    It is understood that there is now broad agreement within the Coalition and among civil servants, with the only question being the timing of the announcement.

    A consultation on the increase could be announced as soon as this month’s Conservative Party conference
    A condition is likely to be that an 80mph limit would be more strictly enforced, to prevent the usual speed rising to 90mph.

    Another part of the deal, to keep the Lib Dems happy, is understood to be the introduction of more 20mph zones in residential areas.

    A road safety expert close to the discussions told the Daily Mail: ‘We have heard whispers from civil servants that they have been looking at it and have been advised from Whitehall insiders that they are minded to raise it soon, either before or at the Tory conference.

    ‘But they are aware that safety groups will oppose it.’

    The latest Department for Transport statistics show that nearly half (49 per cent) of cars exceeded the 70 mph speed limit on motorways last year.

    One in seven (14 per cent) were recorded travelling at 80 mph or faster.

    Transport Secretary Philip Hammond has already made clear his concern that anti-car campaigners have for too long used road safety as a convenient excuse both to prevent the speed limit on motorways being raised and to push for more 20mph zones in urban areas, even where they are inappropriate.

    Mr Hammond believes that safety cannot be the sole determining factor when changing limits and that the economic impact must also be taken into account.

    Ministers and experts argue that raising the speed limit could boost the economy.

    They point out that a modest rise in the limit would mean speedier journeys for employees on jobs, reps on the road, and delivery vans.

    Bigger lorries above 7.5 tons are restricted to 60mph on motorways and this is expected to remain.
    Supporters of raising the limit point out that when 70mph was introduced in 1964, it was the maximum speed of most cars at the time.

    Opponents say it will lead to an increase in casualties.

    There were 132 deaths on motorways in 2009 at a time when the total number of road deaths was 2,222, the lowest since records began.

    The Parliamentary Advisory Council on Transport Safety says raising the limit to 80mph would increase motorway casualties by between 5 and 10 per cent.

    AA president Edmund King, who backs raising the limit, said: ‘Our view is that 80mph in a modern car, in good weather, at a proper distance from the car in front is a safe speed, whereas 50mph in bad weather, tailgating the car in front, is a very dangerous speed.

    ‘Some might argue that 80mph is already the default speed, as motorists rarely get prosecuted for driving at 80mph on motorways.

    ‘However if we want people to adhere to the lower speed limits, such as 30mph, it is better to have speed limits that are realistic and enforced.’

    Britain has some of the safest roads and motorways in Europe, as well as a lower speed limit than most of the continent.

    The maximum in France and Italy is 81mph, while in Ireland Spain and Portugal it is 75mph. German autobahns are unrestricted
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    Re: 80mph Motorway Limit coming soon

    This just means if your caught at 81mph or above expect a heavy Butt ****ing


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    Re: 80mph Motorway Limit coming soon

    as soon as somebody has a crash and dies/kills somebody else it will drop back to 70mph
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrighty View Post
    as soon as somebody has a crash and dies/kills somebody else it will drop back to 70mph
    That won't happen as once its changed its changed for good.... they take into account when calculating the risk, the number of accidents (small knocks or deaths) allowed each year Verses the No. of vehicles on the road this gives them a percentage which is classed as the risk factor for upping the speed...

    Its like how they classify a new road... they look at all the factors, then give it a speed, if they think they've placed the wrong speed on the road they just install traffic calming measures..

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    Re: 80mph Motorway Limit coming soon

    Motorways should be derestricted during the hours of night if they really want to get things moving. Take limiters off wagons (which let's face it are nothing like what they were in 1988 when the EU brought the limit in under the ammended RTA) Stop this pre-occupation with slowing down and blocking up arterial routes with non-sensical traffic light timings. The faster things move the faster things get done. Oh and tighten up the driving test by making people pass hazard training (skid-pan etc) and driving at speed.
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    Re: 80mph Motorway Limit coming soon

    Not good news for me. My average on a motorway is around 110. I'd rather them just stay relaxed about it all and keep away from the motorways and turn those cameras around to face the fields etc etc haha

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    Re: 80mph Motorway Limit coming soon

    Quote Originally Posted by sparks3 View Post
    Motorways should be derestricted during the hours of night if they really want to get things moving. Take limiters off wagons (which let's face it are nothing like what they were in 1988 when the EU brought the limit in under the ammended RTA) Stop this pre-occupation with slowing down and blocking up arterial routes with non-sensical traffic light timings. The faster things move the faster things get done. Oh and tighten up the driving test by making people pass hazard training (skid-pan etc) and driving at speed.
    i agree with most of this mate no restriction between say 2300 and 0400hrs then install variable speeds across the busy areas to keep traffic nice and steady
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    if the motorway was de-restricted throughout the night then it would be closed during the day to clean up the mess of all the accidents... Drivers in this country have a poor driving standard.... we hog the middle lane, we sit in the outside lane... we drive at 60mph in a 70mph zone and even at 60 in the middle lane, we cut up people at the last minute and have a habit of just pulling out without indicating, we also have people driving who have stupidly low reaction times...

    This country will never see de-restricted roads because of this....

    Plus they will never speed a truck up... personally 56mph for 40tonnes is fast enough... imagine a truck fully loaded hitting a car at 56mph.. it would make a mess... imagine it at 70mph....

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    This has been bounced around on forums etc for ages, it will never happen sadly - and as Jon says above, maybe thats no bad thing to some extent.
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    Re: 80mph Motorway Limit coming soon

    The M6 shows that variable speed limit has some real benefits but it can't hide the raised section's limited capacity. Never mind, dropped the home journey to 40 mins from in excess of an hour so money well spent.
    Jon I agree that motorway (and driving standards) are appaulling. As an advanced grade 1 driver it sends me over the edge at some of the people encountered on the highway- hence i'd introduce high-speed training to the driving test. However I still don't think derestriction would have disasterous consequences. Even the M6 during the night is quiet enough that wagons can trundle along happily whilst I flit past in three figures. The great benefit of night driving is being able to see so far in advance what is going on too. Quite common when coming home from a late for cars to fly past me and be able to a) see them coming b) watch them safely by and c) monitor their progress once passed. Be it 70 or 100 if you crash its going to be messy, I can't see any validity in the argument of standing a better chance of survival at a lower speed.
    Although stretching it I can remember what it was like to be in a wagon prior to the introduction of speed limiters. It was less a case of wagons smashing round at full tilt and more about being able to overtake a slower, laden vehicle. Have you ever seen the effects climbing from jct 12 when two wagons get side by side? The impact on the rest of the traffic (imho) has a massive effect in causing so many accidents on that stretch. Traffic clammering for the outside lane wander into the second overtaking lane at a myriad of speeds. On the afternoon rush hour i'll quite happily travel on the inside lane as i'm not prepared to risk my life in the concertina of the outside lane. This danger is easy to remove and can quite commonly be seen on Irish HGVs (I don't think the limiter is closely monitored there!) Instead of rolling road-blocks we need traffic to flow. As it is an empty wagon struggles to overtake a laden one and causes miles of stop-start traffic that in turn leads to people losing their life.
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